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> Bloomberg Markets interviews Mr. Li Ka-shing

 
 
Date: 22 Dec 2002

Q: You told Matt Winkler you don't plan to retire for a long time. You also said: "I will never be satisfied, like the Olympics." That's a good quote. Does it correctly reflect your drive and ambition?
A: There is always much speculation over my retirement. It started when I was 55.

Well, I have my own definition for the term "retirement". Life was extremely hard when I was young; today working without the burden of pressure to me is the same as the luxury of retirement. These few years, our Group has embarked on some new projects and is in exciting times. We plan all our projects meticulously. Our work is certainly challenging, but we are not under any pressure except for the pressure to outperform.

Since many seem to be interested and concerned, I am happy to report that I am in good shape, and can rise to the opportunities and challenges of our times, and I embrace each project with enthusiasm. I also spend a lot of my time on education and medical care initiatives. This is a passion that I will never grow tired of. In fact, I consider it a lifelong endeavor.
   
Q: You have a legendary capacity for hard work. But you have also built up a sophisticated and talented management team. What decisions do you take your self and what do you delegate? If you are ever forced to step down, who will succeed you and what impact will it have on your businesses?
A: Over the years, our group's horizons have been expanding. We are now in 41 countries. With such a wide span of activities and geography, our company structure and corporate culture must seek to embrace the aspirations and concerns of our colleagues all over the world. I consider this of utmost importance.

We are living in a dynamic age with multiple ideas and beliefs of correctness; this world is not deterministic and not still. A lot of management theories have suggested numerous ways on how a corporation could modernize structure and modify corporate culture to equip for a global economy.

To me, when CKH took over Hutchison in 1979, I focused on establishing a management structure and corporate culture that could align the interests of management and shareholders and within which our executives have the maximum flexibility to realize the full scope of their professional expertise and enterprising spirit. Truly great talents with capabilities and strategy are extremely rare and the extra margin on inventiveness, courage and prudence is even rarer and must be rewarded.

I started with identifying within the fluidity of Chinese philosophical thinking and the science of western management, the co-ordinates upon which we could format a seamless management structure. Building on this foundation, the company structure becomes a life-force that supports the development of each division of business. Even should I myself or any senior management retire from office, it would not have any real effect. Succession is not a concern at all.
   
Q: On the question of risk, you're also exposed to another poorly performing sector-Hong Kong property. But you don't seem unduly worried. Why?
A: "If you think, then you will be prepared. If you are prepared, then you will have no worries." A traditional Chinese thought that is practical in the business world. A decade ago, alarmed by the property frenzy, I decided to accelerate diversification to reduce our exposure in the real estate market. Before the Asian financial crisis struck, the signs of a bubble economy were already glaring.

The Government's move to stabilize the property market is, to a certain extent, good news. Proactive economic policies might yield greater effects. The timing of economic policies determines the multiplying effects it has on the economy. Housing is a basic necessity. As people seek to improve their living environment, there will be continuous demand for residential property. Investment in real estate market should have reasonable prospects in the long run. Our Group will proceed conservatively in this area.
   
Q: At the Hutchison and Cheung Kong results announcement, you seemed very disappointed by the critical treatment your family sometimes receives from the Hong Kong media. People may say they put 5 cents of every dollar in your pocket, but you also provide many jobs. Why do you think some people are so keen to attack you-especially given the respect your achievements have earned you over the years?
A: First I want to point out, a responsible media company believes in being constructive; an irresponsible media company weakens the fabric of society for its own profit, at the expense of society. Some people delight in creating controversies and sensationalism; they blur and shift the line between right and wrong. They craftily take advantage of people's prejudices and biases to sensitize emotions to drive sales. They are advocating, not reporting. Beyond the fancy veil in the name of all kinds of justification you will see its true face-a money and power game.

I have been working for over 60 years. I segregate news reports into two categories-those based on facts I certainly would view their criticisms and opinions with professionalism and objectivity. The others I won't pay any attention to. I am confident that the people of Hong Kong know me well. They know that I have worked hard to achieve my success. As both under the colonial government and at present the SAR government, my group has never received any special privileges. We have achieved considerable success in Hong Kong and overseas then and now. We have investments and operations in 41 countries, and the last time I counted, our group employs over 150,000 people internationally. I am sure more people in other countries will understand me now.

All through these years, whether during the colonial administration or the SAR Government, I have always supported policies that focus on the economy and the people's livelihood. What saddens me most today is that Hong Kong is undergoing a difficult economic restructuring, and what we need is intellectual vigor, innovation and insight, but some popular media have gone in the opposite direction and are corroding the public en masse towards intellectual torpor. This is truly regrettable.

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